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Home / Kayako Blog / Product Updates / An invitation to join the V4 beta party

An invitation to join the V4 beta party

August 8th, 2010 • Jamie Edwards • 105 Comments

The day is here!

You need not wait another day to get your hands on Kayako Version 4 Beta.  We’ve been working around the clock (quite literally) in order to reach this milestone, which we are overjoyed to announce.

The whole team is very grateful for the patience everyone has shown during the development of our new product line-up.

We believe that version 4 is the finest help desk software available today, and it will continue to get better — through community development of custom modules and add-on products, as well as from ongoing development here at Kayako.

So, who’s invited to the party?

All existing owned license or leased license customers with an active support and upgrades subscription are eligible for beta. Unfortunately we do not yet have any sandboxes available for our hosted customers to test V4. When this is ready, we’ll let you know.

How to RSVP

We realize there are questions that must be addressed for customers considering upgrading their support desk to V4 Beta, so we’ve compiled a small list of the questions we would want answered if we were in your shoes:

1.) What are my upgrade options?

We will be introducing a new way of licensing and pricing for new V4 customers. However, this is not the case for existing customers; most of who can upgrade without adopting the new licensing scheme. You can read more about existing customer upgrade options here.  We will be releasing more information about the full pricing plan soon.

2.) Is the upgrade process difficult and/or time consuming?

The upgrade is largely automated.  The bulk of the work comes in the form of importing your existing database into version 4.  Depending on the size of your database (number of tickets, etc.), it could take anywhere from 5 minutes to several hours to complete.  Detailed upgrade instructions can be found here.

If you wish to just create a test installation without using your production help desk, installation instructions are here.

We also recommend that you take a look at the getting started page to become more familiar with system requirements.

3.) Is it safe to upgrade?

If a proper backup is taken before the upgrade process, if anything happens to go awry, you can always revert right back to where you were with version 3.  In this way, yes, the upgrade process is safe.

This Beta release has been thoroughly tested in-house, and is currently in production use on my.kayako.com. We have been running live V4 tests on our own website for two months.

In order to properly migrate all of your data, you’ll have to take your support desk offline during the upgrade (so that no new data is added in the interim).  As a result, we recommend upgrading your desk when your clients are least likely to be visiting — on the weekend, for example.

We will all be on red alert to respond quickly to any major bugs or problems you encounter. We’ll do our absolute best to get problems resolved and turned around quickly (even over the weekend).

4.) Are any features I currently use not present in the Beta release?

We are maintaining a list of features and functionality that are not yet complete (scheduled for addition during the Beta program).  The installation guide and upgrade notes are also worth taking a look at, since they describe important changes that have been made.

5.) Where do I get it?

The Beta package is available now from my.kayako.com.

Use your members’ area e-mail address and password to log in. Once logged in, you will be presented with a special widget that will take you to your Beta software. (Note – if your password gets rejected, use the “Lost password” link to have a new one e-mailed to you.)

5.) Where is the installation manual?

You’ll find the installation guide, import guide and release notes for Beta in the new Kayako Wiki: wiki.kayako.com

6.) Where can I report bugs, get help and provide feedback?

We have set up a special V4 Beta forum for V4 questions and suggestions. If you run into any problems using V4 or think you’ve found a bug, please submit a ticket to V4 Beta on my.kayako.com.

Happy supporting!

Please don’t hesitate to let us know if you have difficulties or questions during the Beta testing program.  We are honored to have you with us!

By Jamie Edwards

Involved in Kayako's product and business strategy, and always working closely with the dev team on the product roadmap.

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  • http://twitter.com/SpeedySparrow @SpeedySparrow

    Yay, where to begin?

  • http://twitter.com/SpeedySparrow @SpeedySparrow

    Yay, where to begin?

  • http://twitter.com/richiecobbs @richiecobbs

    Woop! is downloading now!!!! :) happy customer!

  • http://twitter.com/richiecobbs @richiecobbs

    Woop! is downloading now!!!! :) happy customer!

  • http://twitter.com/SpeedySparrow @SpeedySparrow

    Uploading to a test folder, can we use this beta on a folder outside our main use of Kayako?

    I have it under 'my.speedysparrow.com/members/', can I add it to 'my.speedysparrow.com/members/fusionv4'?

    • Jamie Edwards

      Absolutely, yes you can

  • http://twitter.com/SpeedySparrow @SpeedySparrow

    Uploading to a test folder, can we use this beta on a folder outside our main use of Kayako?

    I have it under 'my.speedysparrow.com/members/', can I add it to 'my.speedysparrow.com/members/fusionv4'?

    • Jamie Edwards

      Absolutely, yes you can

  • gmd8

    Awesome! I'm really looking forward to trying it out! I just renewed my SUS but was having some trouble downloading it. I'm sure they'll get back to me shortly though :)

    • Jamie Edwards

      Please post a thread in the beta forum and I'll look into it

  • gmd8

    Awesome! I'm really looking forward to trying it out! I just renewed my SUS but was having some trouble downloading it. I'm sure they'll get back to me shortly though :)

    • Jamie Edwards

      Please post a thread in the beta forum and I'll look into it

  • David burr

    Thanks! Excited to try it.. Downloading now

  • David burr

    Thanks! Excited to try it.. Downloading now

  • http://www.facebook.com/SteveLV702 Steven Lawrence Sr

    great shows 3 products 3 different license keys but doesn't show which domain(s) go to which license keys.

    • Jamie Edwards

      The order IDs are displayed next to each one

      • http://www.facebook.com/SteveLV702 Steven Lawrence Sr

        ya finally saw that and 2 of the IDs match my SupportSuite Licenses and then 1 matches my eSupport License but there is none that match my LiveResponse so does LiveResponse not get a v4 upgrade?

        • http://twitter.com/SpeedySparrow @SpeedySparrow

          I believe it was released before the BETA release? I am using SupportSuite 3.1.1.115 STABLE

  • http://www.facebook.com/SteveLV702 Steven Lawrence Sr

    great shows 3 products 3 different license keys but doesn't show which domain(s) go to which license keys.

    • Jamie Edwards

      The order IDs are displayed next to each one

      • http://www.facebook.com/SteveLV702 Steven Lawrence Sr

        ya finally saw that and 2 of the IDs match my SupportSuite Licenses and then 1 matches my eSupport License but there is none that match my LiveResponse so does LiveResponse not get a v4 upgrade?

        • http://twitter.com/SpeedySparrow @SpeedySparrow

          I believe it was released before the BETA release? I am using SupportSuite 3.1.1.115 STABLE

  • http://twitter.com/SpeedySparrow @SpeedySparrow

    http://my.speedysparrow.com/members/fusionv4/setu… ?
    [Runtime Notice]: Only variables should be passed by reference (Loader/class.SWIFT_Loader.php:397)

    • Jamie Edwards

      Please can you post a bug report in the V4 Beta forum http://forums.kayako.com/f202/

  • http://twitter.com/SpeedySparrow @SpeedySparrow

    http://my.speedysparrow.com/members/fusionv4/setu… ?
    [Runtime Notice]: Only variables should be passed by reference (Loader/class.SWIFT_Loader.php:397)

    • Jamie Edwards

      Please can you post a bug report in the V4 Beta forum http://forums.kayako.com/f202/

  • Harjeet Kaur

    All the Best !!!

  • Harjeet Kaur

    All the Best !!!

  • Owner

    This is sooo exciting! I have followed along very closely and will upgrade to V4 in the next day or so – can't wait!

  • Owner

    This is sooo exciting! I have followed along very closely and will upgrade to V4 in the next day or so – can't wait!

  • http://twitter.com/richiecobbs @richiecobbs

    Checking if magic quotes GPC is disabled FAILED when i run php info file it says its on…. any ideas? i cant wait to make this work

    • Jamie Edwards

      It is supposed to be disabled :)

  • http://twitter.com/richiecobbs @richiecobbs

    Checking if magic quotes GPC is disabled FAILED when i run php info file it says its on…. any ideas? i cant wait to make this work

    • Jamie Edwards

      It is supposed to be disabled :)

  • Aniruddh

    I can't find the link to download v4. :(

  • Aniruddh

    I can't find the link to download v4. :(

  • Andy

    Superb, well done for getting the BETA release available for us to play with. Thank you.

  • Andy

    Superb, well done for getting the BETA release available for us to play with. Thank you.

  • http://twitter.com/koreawebhosting @koreawebhosting

    Before we decide if we want to run the v4 can we install a fresh one in a different folder just for testing purpose?
    There will be no issue with our live v3 we are using now?

    • Jamie Edwards

      Absolutely – you can just install a fresh one to poke around with

  • http://twitter.com/koreawebhosting @koreawebhosting

    Before we decide if we want to run the v4 can we install a fresh one in a different folder just for testing purpose?
    There will be no issue with our live v3 we are using now?

    • Jamie Edwards

      Absolutely – you can just install a fresh one to poke around with

  • http://www.facebook.com/karmacop Josh Dinsdale

    Any idea when a public beta and/or trial versions will be available? I'm really trying to sell Kayako to my boss but version 3 doesnt quite meet our needs…

    • Jamie Edwards

      We'll post on the blog when we have these available

  • http://kubofonista.net Kubofonista

    Hello
    I'm have a free license for open source projects and I don't see anything at my.kayako.com in V4 Beta. Why?

  • http://www.facebook.com/karmacop Josh Dinsdale

    Any idea when a public beta and/or trial versions will be available? I'm really trying to sell Kayako to my boss but version 3 doesnt quite meet our needs…

    • Jamie Edwards

      We'll post on the blog when we have these available

  • http://kubofonista.net Kubofonista

    Hello
    I'm have a free license for open source projects and I don't see anything at my.kayako.com in V4 Beta. Why?

  • Joost Sanders

    Went to office to try installing the beta, but can't find it under my support account. Probably linked to another support account I don't know about…

    • Jamie Edwards

      Please can you e-mail me your customer ID? jamie.edwardds kayako.com

      • http://kubofonista.net Kubofonista

        Sended

  • Joost Sanders

    Went to office to try installing the beta, but can't find it under my support account. Probably linked to another support account I don't know about…

    • Jamie Edwards

      Please can you e-mail me your customer ID? jamie.edwardds kayako.com

      • http://kubofonista.net Kubofonista

        Sended

  • Joost Sanders

    Forget my post about not finding it, it was under another account.
    Downloading now, exciting!

  • Joost Sanders

    Forget my post about not finding it, it was under another account.
    Downloading now, exciting!

  • Carl S

    cant seem to get rid of the "please delete setup folder" message – even though its gone. Also showing errors in the log :/

    • Jamie Edwards

      Please create a thread on the forum with those errors. Thanks!

  • Carl S

    cant seem to get rid of the "please delete setup folder" message – even though its gone. Also showing errors in the log :/

    • Jamie Edwards

      Please create a thread on the forum with those errors. Thanks!

  • http://kubofonista.net Kubofonista

    V3 languages are compatible with V4 version?

    • Jamie Edwards

      No, they need to be completely redone

      • http://kubofonista.net Kubofonista

        It makes sense now doing the translation or something else will change?

        • Jamie Edwards

          Wait until the final release is out, as quite a bit still needs to change

          • http://kubofonista.net Kubofonista

            Can you tell me what is the path to email handler file?
            /console/index.php ?

          • Jamie Edwards

            /home/user/public_html/support/****yourpath****/index.php /Parser/Parse/Index

            If you have any questions in the future, please post them on the forum. I ask because you'll get a much quicker response that way :)

  • http://kubofonista.net Kubofonista

    V3 languages are compatible with V4 version?

    • Jamie Edwards

      No, they need to be completely redone

      • http://kubofonista.net Kubofonista

        It makes sense now doing the translation or something else will change?

        • Jamie Edwards

          Wait until the final release is out, as quite a bit still needs to change

          • http://kubofonista.net Kubofonista

            Can you tell me what is the path to email handler file?
            /console/index.php ?

          • Jamie Edwards

            /home/user/public_html/support/****yourpath****/index.php /Parser/Parse/Index

            If you have any questions in the future, please post them on the forum. I ask because you'll get a much quicker response that way :)

  • Jamie

    Was submitting a ticket using your V4 beta and it offered me a chance to create a profile (upload an image). I tried this but it kept giving me a blank page. I foresee our clients using this feature.

    • Jamie Edwards

      Aware of the bug and working on a fix. Thanks for pointing it out

  • Jamie

    Was submitting a ticket using your V4 beta and it offered me a chance to create a profile (upload an image). I tried this but it kept giving me a blank page. I foresee our clients using this feature.

    • Jamie Edwards

      Aware of the bug and working on a fix. Thanks for pointing it out

  • Falk

    Will there be also an Online demo available? Can you tell me an estimated date for this, so I can see if it makes sense to create a test environment.

  • Falk

    Will there be also an Online demo available? Can you tell me an estimated date for this, so I can see if it makes sense to create a test environment.

  • Ben Wakefield

    Hi, under my login at my.kayako.com I go to the V4 BETA section and nothing is shown? I have asked your live support team, they looked at it and didn't know what was wrong and said they would have to escalate it to a superior.

    • Dom

      Ben did you ever get the beta link? I am waiting as well-got the same response.

  • Ben Wakefield

    Hi, under my login at my.kayako.com I go to the V4 BETA section and nothing is shown? I have asked your live support team, they looked at it and didn't know what was wrong and said they would have to escalate it to a superior.

    • Dom

      Ben did you ever get the beta link? I am waiting as well-got the same response.

  • 4worx

    The key.php file download does not work in Firefox, I get a blank page.
    IE goes fine

    • Jamie Edwards

      That is odd, it seems to work here. Do you still experience this? Which OS?

      • 4worx

        Tried again, works

  • 4worx

    The key.php file download does not work in Firefox, I get a blank page.
    IE goes fine

    • Jamie Edwards

      That is odd, it seems to work here. Do you still experience this? Which OS?

      • 4worx

        Tried again, works

  • Ben Wakefield

    Jamie, can you explain the process behind people being able to access the V4 Beta? I have been told I have got to wait several hours for a script to update?

    • Jamie Edwards

      Our license system synchronizes once every hour, hence the delay. Do you have your license now?

      • Ben Wakefield

        Hi Jamie, no I don't my support ticket is still open, I have spent several hours in live chat with your colleagues and still do not have access.

  • Ben Wakefield

    Jamie, can you explain the process behind people being able to access the V4 Beta? I have been told I have got to wait several hours for a script to update?

    • Jamie Edwards

      Our license system synchronizes once every hour, hence the delay. Do you have your license now?

      • Ben Wakefield

        Hi Jamie, no I don't my support ticket is still open, I have spent several hours in live chat with your colleagues and still do not have access.

  • Brad Nelson

    im also having an issue with the beta not behing showed in the V4 beta section. Can you look up my account for "Fast Support Online"?

    • Jamie Edwards

      Please can you contact us about this: https://my.kayako.com – Submit a ticket, select "V4 Beta" – we'll get it sorted as soon as possible

  • Brad Nelson

    im also having an issue with the beta not behing showed in the V4 beta section. Can you look up my account for "Fast Support Online"?

    • Jamie Edwards

      Please can you contact us about this: https://my.kayako.com – Submit a ticket, select "V4 Beta" – we'll get it sorted as soon as possible

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